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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:18 am 
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I'll talk to her about it. She will check it out and probably add it to the Christ Conspiracy Notice of Errata and Addenda page. Which is normal for corrections.

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"This page does not correct the writing style or grammar, such as misplaced periods, errant commas or wordiness found in the book The Christ Conspiracy, which was released in September 1999. Rather, it serves to provide a list of typos and errors that affect the accuracy of the text. It should be kept in mind that the author had no assistance with this book, as she researched, wrote, typed, edited, proofread, typeset and did the illustrations and cover design and execution by herself. All of this work was done without any funding and with only the author's personal library. The author apologizes, therefore, for inadvertent typos and mistakes, as she did attempt to make this book as factual and error-free as is humanly possible for a single individual. It should be further noted that the vast majority of the errata are typos and not "historical inaccuracies." Indeed, in the list below, which may be incomplete, there are only five (5) "factual errors," four of which are by other writers."

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247 2 David was well known and "all the kings of the earth sought his presence" (2 Chron. 9:23)

... 2 Chronicles 9:23 actually discusses David's son Solomon and should have been included in the Solomon section on pp. 260-261.


Reading through the provided link I can see that she's already caught and corrected it.

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From discussions on The Bible Unearthed at http://www.booktalk.org/the-bible-unearthed-t10904.html

The Bible Unearthed, by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, is a superb scholarly summary of current scientific knowledge about the actual production of the Old Testament, or Hebrew Bible. Finkelstein shows that the far most likely scenario is that King Josiah, reigning in Judah in the Seventh Century BCE, arranged for books of the Bible to be collated ‘as though’ he had found them from ancient times.

Genesis and Exodus are full of anachronisms, places and people who existed in the seventh century but did not exist at the supposed time of the events in question, hundreds and thousands of years earlier. Finkelstein takes advantage of the massive archaeological study that has been conducted in Israel and nearby, to show that the idea of a mass Jewish Exodus from Egypt in about 1300 BC, as the Bible relates, is simply impossible. Archaeologists who themselves were Christian theologians thought that they could prove stories from the Bible by objective data. Indeed, many Biblical places were found by this method. However, the main narrative of the Torah emerged from this exhaustive process as revealed as a work of fiction, a national mythology rather like the work of Homer for Greece, or Virgil’s account of the origin of Rome in the Aeneid.

Camels are used extensively in Genesis, for example carrying Joseph to Egypt. But camels were not used as beasts of burden until about 1000 BC, and were not widely used until even later, making early dating for the Joseph story as it stands impossible. The Philistines came to Palestine after 1200 BC, so their mention in stories about Isaac, who supposedly lived about 2000 BC, are false. Many places that were significant in the 7th century did not exist hundreds of years before that, but still get cited in the Bible as locations of events. The Egyptians had a big row of forts that would have stopped any mass exodus. This is just the tip of the iceberg of how archeaology, through painstaking accurate work, shows up the Bible as a fraud.

All of this scepticism about the Old Testament is fairly widely known, but my interest is to apply it to the New Testament as well. Finkelstein observes that Josiah required a national narrative that could unite his people. It can well be argued that the same situation applied for the Jews after the Roman destruction of the Jerusalem temple in 70AD. They required a narrative to combat Rome, and one that could be palmed off as true would be much more powerful than one that was openly fictional. It makes perfect sense that writers of the Gospels looked to the Jewish heritage of invention of historical facts for political advantage, and did exactly the same thing, inventing the whole story of Jesus Christ, pretending it was literal history, setting it sufficiently far back in the past that nobody would be able to refute it, and then aggressively attacking anyone who did dispute their fiction. The Bible is myth from start to finish.

The Bible Unearthed has been immensely popular, and it is not surprising to see a fundamentalist backlash. Critiques of Finkelstein's claims generally ignore his specific evidence and start from the religious assumption that the Bible is accurate history. Both these strategems are entirely unscholarly, but are to be expected.

The overall story is about how to understand the production of the Bible in a realistic way. The psychology of King Josiah in the seventh century is the decisive factor. The Bible Unearthed tells of how the story of Joshua's genocidal conquest of Canaan is utterly ridiculous when compared to historical facts. But it does make sense when seen as a way to legitimize Josiah's own efforts to expand his kingdom, creating ancient precedents that provided him with a moral mandate, and helped to inspire his community.

The psychology of the mutation of oral tradition is one of the most interesting factors here. A local ruin or cave can become the subject of folk stories, and gradually these stories can be unified and embellished to fit a political agenda, as storytellers seek to impress with their tales, and hearers welcome stories that reinforce their own prejudices and interests. This is a very common occurrence, and fully explains many Bible stories.

Attempting to use an uncorroborated and falsified work of fiction as a prime historical source is rather like using the medieval stories of the Knights of the Round Table to prove claims about King Arthur.

Most of the Old Testament was written in the seventh century BC for King Josiah as propaganda to justify and legitimize his political ambitions. The writers included numerous anachronisms in telling stories from hundreds of years before they lived, describing things that existed at the time they lived but did not exist at the time of the purported ancient events. These anachronisms and errors are found in the stories of camels carrying Joseph to Egypt in Genesis, the whole story of the Exodus, the whole story of Joshua committing genocide against the native people of Canaan, and on to the idea of David and Solomon leading a mighty empire. The Bible is mostly lies, with just enough of a sprinkling of plausibility to make it seem historical.

I am pro-Semitic. I support the human rights of Jews to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state within its 1967 borders. I admire Jewish people for their great achievements throughout history and wish them well.

However, The Bible Unearthed gives good reason to consider that the Jews perpetrated the greatest ever swindle in history in writing the Bible.

The stories of the Torah and of the subsequent early history of Israel to the age of David and Solomon are almost uniformly lies, political propaganda written long after its purported date for partisan imperial motives. Israel Finkelstein proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. As I read The Bible Unearthed, I am continually amazed by the sheer audacity of the ancient Jews in perpetrating deception on a scale similar to what Hitler in modern times called a Big Lie. A Big Lie is a claim of such scale that ordinary people could not believe anyone would have the impudence to make it. The story of how King David and King Solomon ruled a mighty empire stretching from the border of Egypt to the Euphrates River is a Big Lie. Finkelstein indeed draws an oblique comparison between Hitler and King Josiah, the real author of much of the first parts of the Bible from Genesis to Kings. Finkelstein's chapter heading "One State, One Nation, One People" is rather similar to the Nazi slogan "One State, One People, One Leader", and, it should be said, if less so, to the deuteroPaulian formulation in Ephesians 4, "one Lord, one faith, one baptism".

The fact is, as seen in the archaeological record, that Ahab, the northern king who is slandered in the Bible as evil in stories such as Naboth's vineyard, actually ruled over a mighty kingdom while the Davidic line in Judah led nothing more than isolated poor rural villages. Northern ruins that religious archaeologists formerly attributed to Solomon actually date to the much later line of Ahab, while the actual southern realm of Solomon was just villages. King Josiah wanted to rewrite history in the 7th century, falsely claiming that the former unity of Israel was led from the Davidic center of Jerusalem in 1000 BC rather than the true story, that the only previous unity was the northern kingdom of Samaria around 900 BC.

This Davidic story is entirely lies, designed purely for political advantage as Josiah sought to respond to the disarray caused by Assyrian attack on the north. Why else would he put into the mouth of a 'prophet' of the tenth century in 1 Kings 13 that a king by the name of Josiah of the house of David would murder the priests of the northern temple of Bethel? Finkelstein compares this ridiculous prophecy to someone in the modern seventeenth century predicting the role of Martin Luther King by name. The Bible was written to create a moral mandate for the territorial ambitions of Judah under Josiah. As Finkelstein puts it, "the theology of the Bible ... is simply not an accurate representation of the historical reality" (p149).

The Old Testament refrain that Israel was punished for straying to other Gods went on to become one of the most powerful memes in history, at the foundation of the Abrahamic myth. The consequence was that deep cultural traditions were obliterated by narrow fanaticism. The Jews have much reason to be repentant, given how their religion systematically prostituted historical facts in order to support their political goals.

The great swindle of the Old Testament became the template and precedent for the even bigger swindle of the New Testament, the claim of the historical existence of Jesus Christ. Taking King Josiah as their model, the authors of the Gospels systematically rewrote history in a work of fiction with two guiding principles, to be persuasive and to support their political goals.

The Bible Unearthed has not been discredited, it discredits the Bible, and all who have been suckered in by the lies of the Bible.

Earlier we talked about Finkelstein's method of collecting objects from the surface. In The Bible Unearthed, Finkelstein explains that this method gains in breadth what it loses in depth, giving a geographical picture of the location, date and type of human settlement through history across a defined area.

The result of this scientific investigation is the discovery that the Bible fraudulently claimed that Jerusalem/Judah was the center of a great kingdom under David. Judah only contained the two southernmost tribes of Israel, while the northern kingdom of Israel/Samaria contained the other ten. Judah was a rural backwater at the time of David and Solomon. Only when Israel/Samaria was destroyed by Assyria, and many Israelite refugees came to Judah, where the Assyrians ignored them, did Judah start to grow and to build institutions of state. This is all proved fact in the archaeological record. Asserting that it is untrue because it discredits the Bible is not a serious contribution. The Bible is not a credible source, except on the rare occasions where it matches information from real historical sources.

When King Josiah came along in the seventh century, he wanted to justify the claim of Jerusalem to rule all Israel. What better way than to claim that his ambition was not just an audacious bid for power, but was a restoration of a former state that had been blessed by God! So King Josiah proceeded to "find" the book of Deuteronomy, which is suspiciously full of things and ideas that did not exist before Josiah's day, and to invent the myths of David and Solomon, elevating them from small time bandits to mighty kings. There is no archaeological evidence of urban settlement in Judah outside Jerusalem much before Josiah's time. The Zionist restorationist dream of a Greater Israel is a racist fantasy.

On camels, see http://webspace.webring.com/people/ci/i ... raham.html which explains how fundamentalist apologists have fraudulently attacked Finkelstein's findings.

The Bible Unearthed is far more than 'proof of concept'. It presents findings from an emerging scholarly consensus. The 'concept' that fundamentalists suggest it seeks to 'prove' is that systematic archaeology provides consistent information about the past. This concept is rejected by fundamentalists because they have invested so much moral capital in believing that the fictional tales in the Bible are literal history. Fundamentalists are outside the scholarly consensus and are ignored, except by their mass audience on television and in the pews, where they systematically deceive the gullible public with impunity and no accountability.

Pottery sherds are readily dated because the styles of manufacture vary consistently over time. In places like Israel there is rubbish from all the ages of human occupation just sitting on the ground, as well as buried beneath layers of later rubble. Statistical analysis of the material found on the ground over large areas provides important information about the location, date and type of human settlement. Looking around the region of Jerusalem, the clear evidence shows the region was backward and isolated at the time of King David, and only became an imperial center at the time of King Josiah, who made up the stories of David as self-serving efforts to legitimize and advance his political and religious goals. Fundamentalist illogic rejects this rigorous scientific finding because it discredits their wrong beliefs.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:36 am 
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To most Israelis it is axiomatic that the celebrations for the 3,000th anniversary of the conquest of Jerusalem by King David mark a real and tangible event; but this is far from certain.


More directly, anyone who gives any more credence to this David story than to the tales of Conan the Cimmerian is not very bright.


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Here's an article concerning the new documentary about The Bible Unearthed:

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They assert, for example, that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never existed, that David and Solomon were not great kings but obscure chieftains and that the Exodus never happened

Note that I contended in my book The Christ Conspiracy that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were mythical figures, and that the Exodus likewise was fictional. I also presented the viewpoint that David and Solomon were not "historical" figures, their names apparently those of Semitic gods. Finkelstein, et al., seem to think there's a "petty thane" of some sort under all the fabulous fairytales, but I am not certain there is much evidence for such figures. Obviously, there were kings in Israel, but how much of the tales can be considered "history" is always the question - and there is no hardcore, archaeological evidence for the existence of any of these figures.

What this fact means, of course, is that Christ himself could not possibly be a historical figure, if he is supposedly of the lineage of King David, who may be a mythical character and not the progenitor of a lineage. In any event, it is nice to have confirmation from qualified scientists that these other figures and the Exodus are mythical.

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The Bible Unearthed (The Documentary)

The Bible Unearthed does something which has never been done before: it reveals a still-unraveling revolution of what we know of the society, the history, and the men who wrote the Bible.

(ALEXANDRIA, Egypt) - “Prof. Israel Finkelstein & Neil Silberman, Two of archaeology’s leading scholars shed new light on how the Bible came into existence. They assert, for example, that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never existed, that David and Solomon were not great kings but obscure chieftains and that the Exodus never happened.”

For the first time, the true history of ancient Israel as revealed through recent archaeological discoveries-and a controversial new take on when, why and how the Bible was written. In the past three decades, archaeologists have made great strides in recovering the lost world of the Old Testament. Dozens of digs in Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Lebanon have changed experts’ understanding of ancient Israel and its neighbours- as well as their vision of the Bible’s greatest tales.

Yet until now, the public has remained almost entirely unaware of these discoveries which help separate legend from historical truth. Here, at last, two of archaeology’s leading scholars shed new light on how the Bible came into existence. They assert, for example, that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never existed, that David and Solomon were not great kings but obscure chieftains and that the Exodus never happened.

They offer instead a new historical truth: the Bible was created by the people of the small, southern nation of Judah in a heroic last-ditch attempt to keep their faith alive after the demise of the larger, wealthier nation of Israel to the north. It is in this truth, not in the myths of the past, that the real value of the Bible is evident.

The Bible is both a religious and historical work, but how much is myth and how much is history? When and why was the Old Testament written, and by whom? What do contemporary archaeologists know about the Patriarchs? The Exodus? The Conquest of Canaan? Kings David and Solomon? Where do the people of Israel originally come from? Why were the historical accounts of the Bible written down?

A masterful archaeological and biblical investigation, The Bible Unearthed visits digs in Egypt, Jordan and Israel – including Megiddo, the cradle of biblical archeology, where 7,000 years of history have been excavated.

This far-ranging exploration of biblical history also makes use of archival footage of previous archaeological excavations, maps, biblical illustrations and computer animation, revealing ancient architecture, cuneiform tablets and other rare artifacts.

Based on the best-selling book (The Bible Unearthed) by prominent Israeli archeologist Israel Finkelstein & coauthored by American historian Neil Asher Silberman, this enthralling documentary features interviews with archaeological specialists and biblical scholars from all over the world, including experts from the Louvre, the Museum of Cairo, the Museum of Jerusalem, and the British Museum.

The Bible Unearthed does something which has never been done before: it reveals a still-unraveling revolution of what we know of the society, the history, and the men who wrote the Bible.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120508103803.htm

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ScienceDaily (May 8, 2012) — Prof. Yosef Garfinkel, the Yigal Yadin Professor of Archaeology at the Institute of Archaeology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, announced May 8 the discovery of objects that for the first time shed light on how a cult was organized in Judah at the time of King David. During recent archaeological excavations at Khirbet Qeiyafa, a fortified city in Judah adjacent to the Valley of Elah, Garfinkel and colleagues uncovered rich assemblages of pottery, stone and metal tools, and many art and cult objects. These include three large rooms that served as cultic shrines, which in their architecture and finds correspond to the biblical description of a cult at the time of King David.


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"This is the first time that archaeologists uncovered a fortified city in Judah from the time of King David. Even in Jerusalem we do not have a clear fortified city from his period. Thus, various suggestions that completely deny the biblical tradition regarding King David and argue that he was a mythological figure, or just a leader of a small tribe, are now shown to be wrong."


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The stone shrine is made of soft limestone and painted red. Its façade is decorated by two elements. The first are seven groups of roof-beams, three planks in each. This architectural element, the "triglyph," is known in Greek classical temples, like the Parthenon in Athens. Its appearance at Khirbet Qeiyafa is the earliest known example carved in stone, a landmark in world architecture.


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Here are more articles about this find - notice by this order how we suddenly arrived at proving the Bible true!

3,000-year-old artifacts reveal history behind biblical David and Goliath

Shrine Discovery in Judah May Confirm, Clarify Biblical Descriptions

Archaeologists Claim They're One Step Closer to Proving the Bible True

Archaeologists prove Hebrew Bible

Does the existence of the Empire State Building prove the Spiderman stories to be true?

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I especially love the inadvertent admission in the title: First Evidence of a Cult in Judah at Time of King David, admitting that this is (if in fact it is what they claim) the "first evidence..." acknowledging that prior to this recent discovery there existed no evidence.

The original source

I'm reminded of this news from not very long ago in 2010:

Here is a recent example of what's wrong in academia still to this day. We have professional archaeologists publicly saying that other archaeologists are "bending science to prove a Biblical heritage" ... with "generous funding, from religious groups"

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"Archaeologists have given up many of their best practices in order to answer the continuing demands of mainly political actors," says Raphael Greenberg, an Israeli archaeologist from Tel Aviv University, who has worked in Jerusalem.

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"says some archaeologists cater to financial donors like Elad, which seeks to establish Biblical roots and develop tourism"

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"Over time, when you're funded by these people in huge sums, and we're talking millions of dollars, you become part of the machine," argued Greenberg, who has been speaking out for some time over his doubts about archaeology in the holy city.

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Jerusalem archaeologists feel pressured on all sides.

"I'm being looked at by religious extremists on all sides, the municipality, and the Antiquities Authority. Everybody is pushing his side," says Ronny Reich, an archaeologist from the University of Haifa in northern Israel."

Source: Reuters

Earliest Evidence of Biblical Cult Discovered

For more information similar to this see: Worldwide Biblical Artifacts Fraud Ring Exposed

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