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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:19 am 
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Was wondering if maybe there was a correlation from the sun's movement in the zodiac to this line in the Bible about Peter denying Jesus? I heard the Pleiades for example in Thailand were known as the chicken family stars (located in Taurus) Perhaps the sun does something around that motif? Or maybe the Chinese zodiac (I think it has a rooster).

Or St. Peter, based on JuPITER, or based on Egypt's Qebehsenuef might have a better explanation? if anyone has any info on this verse (Luke 22:34)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:58 pm 
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These are all good questions that will need to be explored. Regarding the thrice crowing cock, this may help:

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St. Peter being symbolized by the cock/rooster as a Christian Symbol:

* Religious Information, Meaning and Definition of Cock Christian Symbol
* Cock Christian and Religious symbolism with Bible References
* Symbolism and early religious meaning in art of the Cock Christian Symbol
* Significance and representations of the Cock Christian Symbolism

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:15 pm 
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Ran across an image of Babylonian's zodiac the other day. I noticed that a ''rooster'' is located as one of their constellations and then thought again of this post! Not sure if that passage may have something to do with the solar allegory perhaps in some way but I do know that other allusions to the (current) zodiac are made like the augean stables being saggitarius (hercules 5th labour) and capricorn being abba uddu or ''cave of light'' (the 10th Akkadian month) so maybe this rooster was fit into the ecliptic story somehow since we've seen examples of drawing from earlier myths before and having them incorporate it into the Christian myth. If you find anything on this or even think of something that clicks regarding this, let me know!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Thanks for the post!

That image appears to be a drawing of the zodiac from the temple of Denderah in Egypt.

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There may well be a connection to the "rooster" in this zodiac. Of course, we also know that the cock/rooster was a natural symbol for the sun, since it announces sunrise. Hence, the tale in the New Testament. There may also be other meanings, as is common with mythology.

Indeed, these sorts of multiple connotations fascinated the ancient myth-makers. In some cases it seems the more complex the myth, the better. It's always good to keep a lookout for different interpretations. Fun too!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:41 pm 
My monograph shows that, like the peacock, the cock or rooster was not too common in the West before the Buddhist Ptah-ists! Maitreya is believed by some to assume a birth in the western rooster land. The rooster probably came west by way of Ophir, or Supara India (where Asoka's edicts are on an older Buddhist church). Same with the papyrus, the Almug or Teak, or Sak tree (punned on by Jesus, Daniel and Buddha: see Jesus's Godama Sources, p. 131), blue and pink lotus, the Egyptian national bird, ancestor to our dog, the particular type of Naja snake sacred to Egyptians etc, etc, and etc... The Indians did, and still do, massage the particular type of naga snake known to the Egyptians , Aaron and Moses appear as stiff as a rod! Moses also stands on one leg to invoke the diety, as first did the Brahmins and the Scythians in the play The Birds (Scythian & Bramana = Buddhists). The Nagas guard the Buddhist crown-jewel and this is apparent from the cobra-hoods of Amasis II (the Buddhist Shisuanga, Enoch, Moses, etc..) and his son Tutankamun. Due to an association with its trunk, in parts of Africa the root naj, or nak, also may represent an elephant just as Sans. –naga.
A great deal of the Egyptian etymologies are fanciful and contrived with all of the previous importations to Egypt readers should not be fooled by different so called “scientific names” which were mostly assigned by Christian minds, because , a rose by another name, is just the same!

To “open” the theological grip on philology, let us remember, the etymology of ‘ptah’ must be derived from Buddhists for many reasons. Firstly, because Buddas’ tree was the Terebinth, or Butm tree (of Buddha) of the Bedouin Saints (pistachio and Mastik also called Btm trees or Ogyges, or, Okkaka’s tree ). A ‘Bedouin’ is a dweller in the ‘open’(‘badu’) not a “dweller in the open”. The same root appears in India and Europe as “bud”. Sans and Prakrit –‘bodha’, ‘potu’, ‘vedha’ (as the exiled prince from Oude), all carry with it the meaning of a “bud” and and the act of “opening”. Buddha was also known as the opener of the cosmic egg, the “opener” to the gates of the deathless, the “opener” of the path never before revealed, etc.. . Also, my monograph fully explores the Buddhist origin to the western abyss, or ‘bythos’.

“”Classical scholars have found it difficult to maintain such a balanced perspective and have tended instead to transform "oriental" and "occidental" into a polarity, implying antithesis and conflict. The Greeks had become aware of their own identity as separate from that of the "Orient" when they succeeded in repelling the attacks of the Persian empire. But not until much later, during the crusades, did the concept and the term Orient actually enter the languages of the West. This fact hardly explains why even today it should be difficult to undertake unprejudiced discussion of connections between classical Greece and the East. But whoever tries will encounter entrenched positions, uneasiness, apology if not resentment. What is foreign and unknown is held at a distance by an attitude of wary defensiveness." Orientalizing revolution”


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:47 pm 
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The Apocalypse of Peter has at the end of paragraph one, JESUS denying Peter. It is him denying Peter in meditation, as not yet sufficiently focused to see the inner vision of the Master. Like nearly everything else in the gospel story, it has been INVERTED. (Think "Betrayal" as traitor 'Judas' inversion of installation of successor James the Just). I wrote all about this in my own book. http://bookstore.xlibris.com/Products/S ... h-121.aspx

Apocalypse of Peter: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apopet.html


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