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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:51 pm 
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Origin of All Religious Worship by Charles Dupuis, 12 volumes originally written in French in 1795 but only an abrogated part has been translated into English.

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"Dupuis devoted himself to the study of astronomy (his tutor was Lalande) in connection with mythology, the result of which was his magnum opus: Origine de tous les Cultes, ou la Réligion Universelle. It appeared in 1795 in quarto or octavo format, profusely illustrated (in 12 volumes); an abridgement (1798) spread his system more widely among the reading public. In Origine he advocated the unity of the astronomical and religious myths of all nations, an aspect of the Enlightenment's confidence in the universality of human nature. In his Mémoire explicatif du Zodiaque, chronologique et mythologique (1806) he similarly maintains a common origin for the astronomical and religious opinions of the Greeks, Egyptians, Chinese, Persians, and Arabians. He contributed to the Journal des savants a memoire on the origin of the constellations and on the explication of myth through astronomy, which was published as a separate fascicle in 1781."

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Were George Washington and Thomas Jefferson Jesus Mythicists?

Solar Mythology Lesson #1

Why I am A Mythicist

What is a Mythicist?

Evemerist vs. Mythicist Position

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"Mythicism represents the perspective that many gods, goddesses and other heroes and legendary figures said to possess extraordinary and/or supernatural attributes are not "real people" but are in fact mythological characters. Along with this view comes the recognition that many of these figures personify or symbolize natural phenomena, such as the sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations, etc., constituting what is called "astrotheology."

"As a major example of the mythicist position, various biblical characters such as Adam and Eve, Satan, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, King David, Solomon & Jesus Christ, among other figures, in reality represent mythological characters along the same lines as the Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian, Greek, Roman and other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths, rather than historical figures."

- Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection (2009) page 12


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Yahweh and the Sun: Biblical and Archaeological Evidence for Sun Worship in Ancient Israel by well-known Biblical Scholar Rev. Dr. J. Glen Taylor

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As I relate in my ebook Jesus as the Sun throughout History, in his scholarly dissertation Yahweh and the Sun: Biblical and Archaeological Evidence for Sun Worship in Ancient Israel, Taylor (7) remarks:

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This book is a slightly revised version of my doctoral dissertation entitled “Solar Worship in the Biblical World” which was submitted to the Graduate School of Yale University in the Spring of 1989. As may be judged from the title of that work, I had at one time planned to cover more territory than sun worship in ancient Israel, but found the material pertaining to ancient Israel so vast that I never got beyond it.

The description of Yahweh and the Sun states:

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This challenging provocative book argues that there was in ancient Israel a considerable degree of overlap between the worship of the sun and of Yahweh—even that Yahweh was worshipped as the sun in some contexts.

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Probably the most provocative issue related to the nature of sun worship in ancient Israel...is the specific claim that Yahweh was identified with the sun.

In his tome, Taylor discusses Yahweh as a sun god—terming this adulation "solar Yahwism"—as reflected in the sun worship by Israelites described in the biblical texts of Deuteronomy, the Prophets, Job and the Psalms. He also addresses linguistic evidence as well as various archaeological finds that reveal Israelite sun worship, including artifacts such as sun disks and temple/shrine alignments.

As I also included in Jesus as the Sun, as concerns the prevalence of solar Yahwism in ancient Israel, Taylor concludes:

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Several lines of evidence, both archaeological and biblical, bear witness to a close relationship between Yahweh and the sun. The nature of that association is such that often a "solar" character was presumed for Yahweh. Indeed, at many points the sun actually represented Yahweh as a kind of "icon." Thus, in at least the vast majority of cases, biblical passages which refer to sun worship in Israel do not refer to a foreign phenomenon borrowed by idolatrous Israelites, but to a Yahwistic phenomenon which Deuteronomistic theology came to look upon as idolatrous.... an association between Yahweh and the sun was not limited to one or two obscure contexts, but was remarkably well integrated into the religion of ancient Israel.

Hence, the sun was worshipped by the Israelites, who associated it with their tribal god Yahweh. Indeed, we read from the Greek historian Diodorus Siculus (1st cent. BCE) that Yahweh is the same as the god Iao, while, according to Dr. Roelof van den Broek, a professor of Christian History at the University of Utrecht, "Iao stood for the Sun." Concerning the Iao-Yahweh connection, Dr. Campbell Bonner, head of Classics at the University of Michigan, relates:

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As to the meaning of Iao, there can be no doubt, especially since the subject was thoroughly investigated by Graf von Baudission; and, in fact, the combination of Ιαω Σαβαωθ Αδωναι, "JHVH of hosts, Lord," which is common on both amulets and papyri, is convincing in itself.

As cited by Macrobius, the identification of JHVH/Iao with the sun also appeared in the work of Latin writer Cornelius Labeo (2nd-3rd cents. AD/CE), who in discussing the mysteries and the oracle of Apollo at Claros explained "splendid" Iao as the "supreme god of all gods" who is Hades in winter, Zeus in spring, the Sun in summer and Iao in the fall.

In his book, Taylor mentions Mark S. Smith, another scholar from Yale. Smith also demonstrated great interest in ancient solar and astral mythology - off with his foolish head! In his book Yahweh and the Other Deities in Ancient Israel, Smith includes a section entitled, "Yahweh and the Sun," in which he provides a subsection, "The Assimilation of Solar Imagery."

The fact is that one cannot be considered an expert on the nature of the biblical god Yahweh without having studied these solar aspects. Hence, those who wave away this subject with sneering and guffawing cannot be considered authorities in this field.

As we can see, solar mythology is alive and well, and we are right to look towards the Bible as a major source thereof. From there, we can proceed to consider not only the Father but also the Son: "I and the Father are one." (Jn 10:30). Let us not, therefore, be dissuaded by those who have clearly not studied this subject in any relevant depth and who are therefore missing out on much fascinating data.

"The Sun of Righteousness will arise with healing in his wings."
Malachi 4:2

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Blog: 2,750-year-old solar-aligned temple discovered in Israel

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The title of this thread is “Origin of All Religious Worship” but I have seen no date mentioned.

When it was that religious worship of heavenly gods began?
When it was that worship of earthly gods began?
By what means the earthly gods became heavenly?

Knowledge of the History of Religion in 1795 was minimal if not zero.
No one could at that time believe that organized religion was already 15,000 years old and because of that modern theology was thought to be everything there was with respect to religion and peoples beliefs. However, in the ancient Greek literature the deeds of the ancient philosophers have been recorded and those interested in Religious Studies should, even at that time, know that no people on earth ever believed in Sun gods and Moon goddesses without having been thus taught by theologians. Prior to 700 BCE no one was interpreting allegorically the folklore stories about gods. When Danae was raped by Zeus it was Zeus’ phallus penetrating Danae’s vulva and not a blade of grass penetrating the soil as the philosophizing theologians preached.

There is also the issue of the translations of the oldest texts of humanity, the Egyptian Funerary Texts. How can the subject of the origin of Religion be investigated when these texts have been mistranslated for almost two hundred years?
Most probably you are not aware of the fact that a number of key words had been translated wrongly and that now, that the mistake has been realized, they have stopped translating these words entirely.

Astrotheology is an acceptable term as long as it is made clear that the gods of the people, the gods of the folklore predate Astrotheology by tens of thousands of years.


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"France's Lascaux caves have long been celebrated as one of the world's best examples of Paleolithic art. These 35,000-year-old animal depictions were thought to have represented life during the hunting season, but French researcher Chantal Jegues-Wolkiewiez has theorized that in actuality, these murals are a celestial map of the night sky."

- National Geographic's "Ancient Astronomers"

Astrotheology of the Ancients
http://stellarhousepublishing.com/astrotheology.html

Astrotheology of the Ancients forum thread
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1073

'Yahweh and the Sun: Biblical and Archaeological Evidence for Sun Worship in Ancient Israel' by well-known Biblical Scholar Rev. Dr. J. Glen Taylor

Star Worship of the Ancient Israelites

Blog: 2,750-year-old solar-aligned temple discovered in Israel

The Astrotheological Origins of Christianity
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4414

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The title of this thread is “Origin of All Religious Worship” but I have seen no date mentioned.

When it was that religious worship of heavenly gods began?
When it was that worship of earthly gods began?
By what means the earthly gods became heavenly?

Knowledge of the History of Religion in 1795 was minimal if not zero.
No one could at that time believe that organized religion was already 15,000 years old and because of that modern theology was thought to be everything there was with respect to religion and peoples beliefs. However, in the ancient Greek literature the deeds of the ancient philosophers have been recorded and those interested in Religious Studies should, even at that time, know that no people on earth ever believed in Sun gods and Moon goddesses without having been thus taught by theologians. Prior to 700 BCE no one was interpreting allegorically the folklore stories about gods. When Danae was raped by Zeus it was Zeus’ phallus penetrating Danae’s vulva and not a blade of grass penetrating the soil as the philosophizing theologians preached.

There is also the issue of the translations of the oldest texts of humanity, the Egyptian Funerary Texts. How can the subject of the origin of Religion be investigated when these texts have been mistranslated for almost two hundred years?
Most probably you are not aware of the fact that a number of key words had been translated wrongly and that now, that the mistake has been realized, they have stopped translating these words entirely.

Astrotheology is an acceptable term as long as it is made clear that the gods of the people, the gods of the folklore predate Astrotheology by tens of thousands of years.

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